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dandelion Moderator |
Regarding "The Execution"--well, that's what I get for trying to do these things at 3 a.m. If it's not on my own list, or the contributions by others above, we don't have it, so you better list publication information for it. As for "Hopscotch," I have seen this with my own two eyes. The magazine version was about half the length of the book version, but it IS the same story! That is, the magazine story is incorporated into this longer story. Yes, Bradbury does revise, rewrite, expand, and retitle considerably! IP: Logged |
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djmonolith Junior Member |
Phil - Thanks for the information on "A Wild Night in Galway" It appears that "Hopscotch" is included in the book Bradbury Stories: 100 of His Most Celebrated Tales" - can someone check the publishing info and see if this is listed in there as being originally published as "A Summer Day" in Redbook, August 1978??
Do you need cover scans? I have tons of magazine/pulp/digest/book images if you are looking to link all the short stories to their original covers. IP: Logged |
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djmonolith Junior Member |
thank you dandelion Yes! 3A.M. - indeed! OK, "The Execution" - published in Xenophile #36 (November, 1977). From an earlier post on this list: "The Beautiful Shave" is a complete version of " The Execution" (a story fragment) which appeared in Xenophile #36 [November] 1977." Can someone please check Bradbury Stories: 100 of HIs Most Celebrated Tales" and see if "The Beautiful Shave" was originally published as "The Execution"?? I suppose I need to actually BUY Bradbury Stories...
Is this getting annoying for anyone? My anal-retentiveness may be a bit much. I just love to know that my list is as accurate as possible. IP: Logged |
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philnic Member |
djmonolith, Bradbury Stories doesn't verify that Hopscotch was "A Summer Day"; it merely refers to Quicker Than The Eye. dandelion says she has seen both "A Summer Day" and Hopscotch, so perhaps she can verify the publication details of "Summer Day". Nor does Bradbury Stories verify the Xenophile information for A Beautiful Shave; it merely references Gallery, March 1979. If you look carefully, you will see that celsius233 claimed "Shave" and "Execution" to be the same story, but dandelion challenged the comparison (which celsius233 seems to have accepted). Anal retentiveness? Here? No, we're just perfectionists, surely! As for cover scans for my site, yes please! I'm still missing a scan for The Autumn People, and I could do with additional scans for any of the books that don't yet fill the screen from left to right. I would also welcome scans of magazine covers containing RB stories, scans of interior artwork etc. - Phil [This message has been edited by philnic (edited 07-26-2004).] IP: Logged |
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dandelion Moderator |
Someone who has both stories obviously needs to read both "The Execution" and "The Beautiful Shave" and see if one is incorporated into the other. I have read neither. If one story includes the basic text of the other, they should go into the "same story - different title," category under the more complete title (in the case of "Hopscotch," being the longer version, it is counted as "the" story) not be counted as two different stories. As for the Hannes Bok stories, that information came from Donn Albright, whose word is absolute. IP: Logged |
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wtouponc Junior Member |
Thanks to Dendelion for all that work, but since I don't see that Douglas SP's question, which started this thread, has been answered yet - where to find a 'complete' listing of all of Bradbury's stories - I might mention the following as being of use: Jon R. Eller, "The Stories of Ray Bradbury: An Annotated Finding List (1938-1991)" Bulletin of Bibliography Vol. 49, No 1, 1992.(pp. 27-51). Available also as an offprint. Eller has developed his bibilography of Bradbury's fiction for Ray Bradbury: The Life of Fiction (Kent State University Press, 2004), pp. 439-514. This extensive bibliography (which also details information about where the stories have been collected) includes everything Dandelion has mentioned above, and more. Furthermore, it was checked by Donn Albright (whose biblio has not yet appeared ) and by William F.Nolan (whose own biblio is out of date/print). It does not however include all the stories listed in The Cat''s Pajamas (except in the list of Unpublished Fiction), but those have been noted in another thread on this board. So if you put the two together, you should have a fairly 'complete' list. P.S. The length of this bibliography and copyright restrictions forbid my posting any of it here, unfortunately. Sorry. [This message has been edited by wtouponc (edited 07-27-2004).] IP: Logged |
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suetheblue Junior Member |
Since we're talking about his stories here, can anyone tell me the name of the story where time traveled backwards. A person started his life in the grave, came out of the grave, got younger and younger until he was a toddler, then an infant, then went back into his mother's womb where he got smaller and smaller and then disappeared. I have just posted this question on this message board, but I am determined the find the answer. I have been searching for years. Please help me out if you know the answer. IP: Logged |
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djmonolith Junior Member |
"The Black Ferris" is about a Ferris Wheel that makes the rider younger when put into reverse motion. The carni boss uses it to become a young boy and steal money from people... (if I remember correctly). ? IP: Logged |
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philnic Member |
Don't forget, Black Ferris was the basis of Something Wicked This Way Comes, which has the same basic idea, but substituting a carousel for the ferris wheel. (But somehow I don't think either of these is the story suetheblue is looking for.) I have a resolution to the "Beautiful Shave"/"Execution" discussion, courtesy of Jon Eller, co-author or A Life of Fiction. "The Execution" first appeared in Xenophile #36, Nov 1977 as a story fragment. It was expanded and reprinted in Gallery, March 1979 and The Best of Gallery, Winter-Spring 1980, as "The Beautiful Shave". The revised version was reprinted in Telegraph Sunday Magazine (U.K.) May 27, 1979, as "The Shave", and collected in Bradbury Stories as "The Beautiful Shave." Jon tells me he his bibliographical research involved work in Ray's basement, and with Donn Albright. - Phil P.S. dandelion, I tried to forward Jon Eller's message to your email address, but it bounced. If you would like a copy, please email me. [This message has been edited by philnic (edited 07-27-2004).] IP: Logged |
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dandelion Moderator |
This may well answer two questions at once. Someone was asking which story "From the Dust Returned" was in the volume of that title, then suetheblue asked about a character aging backwards. I am pretty sure these are the same story. Anyhow, it is in "From the Dust Returned" and is the chapter about Angelina Marguerite. [This message has been edited by dandelion (edited 07-27-2004).] IP: Logged |
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wtouponc Junior Member |
"From the Dust Returned" first appeared in Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction Sep. 1994. It was expanded (with a brief interchapter) and re-written to form chapters 21 and 23 of FDR (2001). The story is not old; it was written in the 1990s for use in the evolving novel. It describes Timothy's rescue of many times great grandma and his successful attempt to place her in the museum IP: Logged |
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philnic Member |
I've now received my copy of The Life of Fiction, and have begun to read it. I can confirm that it looks quite a thorough book, and is particularly good at drawing out all the connections between different Bradbury stories and story cycles. Some readers may find it a bit academic at times, but the analysis is balanced by some fascinating biographical detail. Well worth a read. Jon Eller's chronological bibliography is excellent. I have systematically cross-checked my short story finder Phil [This message has been edited by philnic (edited 08-18-2004).] IP: Logged |
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dandelion Moderator |
What can I say but, "I...salute you!" IP: Logged |
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philnic Member |
Thanks, dandelion. I've just got a proper domain name for my website (a bit easier to remember than the old address - although the old address will continue to work). Set your browser to: - Phil IP: Logged |
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Nard Kordell Member |
philnic: This is a wonderul source! Thanks again! IP: Logged |
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dandelion Moderator |
You should include links to this site and elron's site. One of these days I'll read (or, if necessary, reread) all the old obscure stories, and, if elron doesn't have reviews of them, I can review some for him. Maybe you could even fix a way that clicking on the title in the story titles list would open the review! (It would be a way to keep track of which have been reviewed by we his faithful readers.) IP: Logged |
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philnic Member |
Good idea, I may do that. I already have links to this message board for some of the questions in the FAQ, and a general link to Elron's original Russian site. My original intention was that I would review all the stories myself, but I'm never going to find the time. I started doing it for one book I was reading (Memory of Murder, I think) but it was a slow process. I do most of my reading on the bus to work, and it's very difficult to make notes on a moving bus! (And my memory is rubbish, so I forget to write the reviews up afterwards.) [This message has been edited by philnic (edited 08-24-2004).] IP: Logged |
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Illustratedman Junior Member |
Just found this terrific message board. Ray Bradbury was the first 'serious' writer I recall being aware of. I became a fan at the age of 10. Three years ago (at the age of 34), I started rereading some of the short stories, and thought 'Hey, I was right to love this stuff when I was 10'. I have subsequently started collecting all the books I missed, and attempting to find all the uncollected short stories, so this thread has been of great interest to me. I just checked Dandelion's list of uncollected stories against my own notes. At least one major title is missing from Dandelion's list: THE ILLUSTRATED MAN, published in the July 1950 issue of ESQUIRE. The prologue to Bradbury's short story collection THE ILLUSTRATED MAN deals with the same character, but is otherwise a totally different work. I have a photocopy of this, as well as several other titles Dandelion needs, including LORELEI OF THE RED MIST, THE CHANGELING, THE HOUR OF GHOSTS and UNDERSEA GUARDIANS. Also, according to my notes, the following stories have appeared in Bradbury collections: LAZARUS COME FORTH (1944) appeared in LONG AFTER MIDNIGHT under the title GBS - MARK V. TOMORROW AND TOMORROW (1947) appeared in THE DAY IT RAINED FOREVER (UK edition) under the title THE SUNSET HARP. A LITTLE JOURNEY (1951) appeared in LONG AFTER MIDNIGHT under the title THE BURNING MAN. Best wishes, IP: Logged |
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philnic Member |
Brad, I don't believe A Little Journey is the same story as The Burning Man (which was first published in 1975). Neither do I believe that Lazarus Come Forth is the same as GBS Mark V. And neither is Tomorrow And Tomorrow the same as The Sunset Harp. Take a look at the Short Story finder on my website www.bradburymedia.co.uk - click on BOOKS and then on SHORT STORY FINDER. You will see a detailed cross-reference of all known published Bradbury short stories. I don't claim it to be perfect, but it has been thoroughly cross-checked against one of the most detailed recent bibliographies. IP: Logged |
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dandelion Moderator |
You are right (as usual), Phil; none of those stories are duplicates of the other. IP: Logged |
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Illustratedman Junior Member |
Wow! Thanks. That's a great resource. IP: Logged |
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dandelion Moderator |
Ooohh...100! (101.) IP: Logged |
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philnic Member |
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dandelion Moderator |
This thread just broke 100! Break out the celebration! IP: Logged |
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philnic Member |
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sambalizzirdonskis Junior Member |
Okay, so I've read the list(s) of uncollected stuff and am looking forward to reading it. Are there any online sources? I don't exactly live in a community hospitable to this type of literature. ![]() if anyone could point me in the right direction, I'd give them a big hug. IP: Logged |
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Nard Kordell Member |
sam... etc. You'd have great chance of success in your quest by getting yourself to the NEW Bradbury board. THIS is the OLD one....the NEW one has nearly everyone from this old site, as well as a bunch of new members.... click here: http://www.raybradburyboard.com/eve?cdra=Y&s=8881014801 IP: Logged |
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